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Pompeyfan · May 05, 2006, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Be interesting to see this challanged as in UK and probably EU contract law some of the terms in the EULA could be regarded as unfair constrictions so are null and void. What may be enforceable under US law isn't necessarily enforceable under other countries/areas laws (however much the US would like that to be the case).

Just as an example of a difference - in the US copyright law allows end users to make a back-up of media for personnal use, there is no such allowance in UK law and to make a back-up breachs the license and copyright - but is that enforceable in the US if the media was obtained from the UK?

Omni Spirit · May 05, 2006, 08:42 PM // 20:42

/signed

I agree, we should be given this option to unlink.
For example...Faction suks right now, and I want to get rid of it.

shmek · May 06, 2006, 12:19 PM // 12:19

Great idea, BUT not going to happen since it's work that doesn't generate income and most likely would reduce it since people won't have to go buy as many new keys with this option.

Omni Spirit · May 08, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by shmek

Great idea, BUT not going to happen since it's work that doesn't generate income and most likely would reduce it since people won't have to go buy as many new keys with this option.

So what you saying is, since buying faction and finding that its one of the most crappiest game release, that I can't sell it? Anet is getting a bit money hungry there!!!

Malice Black · May 08, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16

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is it me or are ppl bitching about stupid little things more and more

bring back the good old days..

widds2v · May 08, 2006, 03:29 AM // 03:29

The only reason I wish you could unlink factions keys is because those of us that are unwilling to pay 100 bucks on ebay for a collectors faction key had to buy the normal copy. Well with the collectors factions coming out in a couple of weeks I had to pay $50 for a factions key to play factions, and then another 60-70 bucks for a CE key to overwrite my $50 regular factions key? Stupid....

thunderpower · May 08, 2006, 06:50 AM // 06:50

I dont know if they warn you on plaync.com that you can't resell the serial key you are going to buy.

If so, sue them.

I`m sure they say it's non-refundable and that it may be used only once. I`m sure in the User agreement or something you click Ok to contains the clause that you can't resell the cd key.

But if it's not the case i welcome you to sue them. It would be a gould starting point.

Also EU law guru are wellcome to present their knowledge.

Mandy Memory · May 20, 2006, 07:23 AM // 07:23

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Originally Posted by Omega X

You can rant at ANET and NC Soft until you are blue in the face. They DO NOT allow reselling of keys. PERIOD. You agreed to a binding contract when you created your account. The only way out of that contract is deleting your account.

Sad thing is, Anet left no way for you to delete your account...At least some easy way that I am aware of...(Just something that is available in every other game...including ones that are free to play)

generik · May 20, 2006, 09:01 AM // 09:01

Perhaps the legal monkies in NCSoft may want to read about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

Hell, I've seen even Microsoft's so called EULA being crushed in court by law college student who was merely reselling his Academic version of software, legally.

I really glee at the idea of seeing someone take Anet to court for this clause in the EULA too. Do not for a moment think an EULA is gospel truth, it is at very best a contract, and even then you still retain rights as a consumer.

samifly · May 20, 2006, 10:43 AM // 10:43

They really should seperate the ce bonuses from the actual game codes. i think that would be a fair deal, and the preview codes were like that, so we know they can do it.

generik · May 20, 2006, 11:16 AM // 11:16

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Originally Posted by samifly

They really should seperate the ce bonuses from the actual game codes. i think that would be a fair deal, and the preview codes were like that, so we know they can do it.

Yes, this is what I'd hope to see too.

Loviatar · May 20, 2006, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by generik

Yes, this is what I'd hope to see too.

divine aura for 10 bucks?

HELL NO WAY

those are special bonuses for those who buy the package not the whiners who refuse to get it and then go *oh wow i have to have that*

Artisan · May 20, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24

/not signed.

What about "You're not allowed to sell keys" isn't getting through to some people?

Lord Shazneri · May 20, 2006, 09:05 PM // 21:05

I would love to have had Factions CE - but due to a Ball being dropped by the Production and Marketing Teams of a Certain Un-Named Company, It is not the Consumers Fault ... We are just trying to Give them our $$$ but I cannot afford to go waist another $70 to get another CE code. I just hope This company would Keep this in mind that They do have a loyal Following and Alot of us would like to have the CE edition for the next Launch PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Manufactor and Package plenty of CE's for Ch3 prior to 3 months after Launch Date.

And for the Error of there ways It would be nice if they sold an Upgrade Package w/ the CE stuff for $20 or $25 bucks.. I would sure go buy that over 2 tanks of Gas.

samifly · May 20, 2006, 09:14 PM // 21:14

You are misunderstanding... It would cost $70 still, you just get two codes in the box, one for the game, one for the bonuses.

Lord Shazneri · May 20, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

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Originally Posted by samifly

You are misunderstanding... It would cost $70 still, you just get two codes in the box, one for the game, one for the bonuses.

No I think you miss understood me I already paid the $60 for SE - I dont want to Pay another $70 for total of $130 ... I would be willing to pay $20 or $25 for UPGRADE only similar to what other companies sale.. It wont work stand alone you would already have to have a SE purchased Code and you add a CE Upgrade Code - Thus giving you a CE account for $80 or $85 and ANET still makes out like a bandit w/ an extra $10 to $15 bucks!

samifly · May 20, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

I dont see them giving you an "upgrade", but a code is reasonable. You get a bunch of other stuff with the ce, and you can give away your factions account to a friend, or just use it for storage, instead of throwing it away. CE is supposed to be for the people who bought the CE.

pork soldier · May 21, 2006, 12:46 AM // 00:46

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Originally Posted by Nominal_Fee

Every single commercial piece of software on Earth is LICENSED not sold. The word "licensed" makes all the difference- you DON'T OWN THIS GAME, YOU CAN DO NOTHING WITH IT.

Welcome to the world of the copyright cabal, have a nice day and enjoy your newfound lack of rights.

Prefectus · May 21, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

/NOT signed

generik · May 21, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by Prefectus

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Nice try troll

No explaination even?